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| − | Hey there! This is the first time I've ever used the talk page here before. | + | Hey! Luckily I caught your comment at the end of the jubeat page, haha. I'd love to contribute pages for the songs and other series in the BEMANI series! I haven't followed the Nico medley scene since like summer 2013, right before BEMANI games hit the latest big surge in popularity due to the large cross-series events (Academy, Stadium, Ruins), and it seems ''a lot'' more than the core popular songs (Second Heaven, RED ZONE, etc.) are being used, so I'm pretty much just listening to a ton of the recent ones to see which ones are really popular. I will definitely be adding more info about these songs and the games though in the future! :) -- [[User:Deogenerate|Deogenerate]] 17:41, 9 May 2015 (PDT) |
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| − | After almost a year working on the wiki and on the forums, I can think of at least two problems off the top of my head that should be fixed as soon as possible (within reason):
| + | Awesome, thanks a lot!! - [[User:Nnd8793|Nnd8793]] 22:36, 9 May 2015 (CDT) |
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| − | 1. Our medley navigation box needs an extreme rehaul.
| + | ==Song/Medley Lyrics Requests== |
| | + | Is there a song or medley that you really want the lyrics to, but they're not available on this wiki? Let me know on this page and I will get to it as soon as I can. |
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| − | Currently, the MedleyNavBox is painfully out of date; however, we can't just add every single medley that's currently on the main page into the box as is - it would be far too large, and nearly impossible to locate a certain medley without using computer shortcuts. I know from researching that Seritaniji tried to group the medleys similarly to the main page back in 2010 or so, but it was crazy-looking then, and will be even more insane now that there's so many medleys. | + | '''Currently making lyrics for:''' nothing at the moment. |
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| − | So, I'm thinking that we should try to group the medleys in a different way. My idea is that we construct a main navigation box for arrangers themselves, and then have multiple medley navigation boxes on each medley for different situations. In other words, lots of categorization.
| + | ==Category Ideas== |
| | + | * A number of medleys nowadays use Kantai Collection BGM, or arrangements of Kantai Collection BGM. It might be good to make song pages and a category for Kantai Collection, so that way people can recognize these songs when they appear in a medley. |
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| − | For example, if we were looking at Konton Jiyuusou, we could have two navigation boxes: one for the arrangers, and one for listing only medleys done by FLAG.
| + | ==Medley Ideas== |
| − | Another good example would be The Medley of Kirby SSDX, where multiple navigation boxes could be used: one for the arrangers, one for medleys by hapi, a third box for Kirby-oriented medleys (maybe not songs, though - that would be too much work!) and possibly a fourth box since it's technically a theme medley.
| + | Sometimes, I get some incredibly ridiculous ideas for medleys. These ideas are ones that I'm pretty certain are possible to do, but will take a LOT of work to pull off properly. These ideas may appear as proper medleys in the future, but for now they will remain here. These are ranked from easiest to hardest, based on personal opinion: |
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| − | 2. We just need more people doing useful stuff!
| + | # "X goes with everything", where we take parts or all of song X and mash it with songs that have different chord progressions. |
| − | | + | #* The song X must be very versatile for this to work properly. This concept has technically been done before by 8:51:22 pm with his [[FamilyMart Remix|FamilyMart]] [[Another FamilyMart Remix|remixes]]. Right now, [[SigSig]]'s main melody seems like an ideal candidate. |
| − | Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I'm fairly certain that xXtouhoumarioXx and I are the only ones who are actually contributing anything to the wiki these days, no offense. There is still so much more work to do just in terms of creating and editing medley pages, never mind figuring out lyrics for medleys, song pages and all this other categorizing stuff I've mentioned. We need more help!
| + | # A medley with everything but a 4/4 time signature, with time measure changes occurring fairly often throughout. |
| − | | + | #* This medley is currently in progress! It will feature lots of songs with multiple time signature changes, but it will also include 4/4 and 3/4 songs that are cut into different time signatures (kind of like when Winnna chopped several 4/4 songs to fit them into a 3/4 setting in [[Medley1764]]). |
| − | Now that I've said all that, what do you guys think? [[User:Nnd8793|Nnd8793]] 19:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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| − | Well, we've got a bunch of NavBoxes for individual arrangers now - maybe now's a good time to try integrating them into the pages!
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| − | Here's what I think the new MedleyNavBox could look like:
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| − | {| align="left" class="linksnowrap" style="width: 100%; clear: both; background-color: {{{boxbackcolor|#ffffff}}}; border-width: thin; border-style: solid; border-color: {{{bordercolor|#bebebe}}}; padding: 0em 0em 0em 0.3em;"
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| − | |style="margin: 1em; text-align: center; padding: 0.1em; background-color: {{{titlebackcolor|#efefef}}}; color: {{{titlecolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{titlefontsize|small}}}" colspan="8"|'''Search for Medleys...'''
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| − | |style="text-align: center; background-color: {{{titlebackcolor|#efefef}}}; color: {{{titlecolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{titlefontsize|small}}}"|'''By Composer'''
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| − | |style="margin: 1em; text-align: {{{align|left}}}; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: {{{listcolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{listfontsize|smaller}}}"|[[:Category:Medleys by Shimo|Shimo]] • Onitan • [[:Category:Medleys by 8:51:22 pm|8:51:22 pm]] • Noma • Mahi • [[:Category:Medleys by M.Iz|M.Iz]] • FLAG • etc.
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| − | |style="text-align: center; padding: 0.1em; background-color: {{{titlebackcolor|#efefef}}}; color: {{{titlecolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{titlefontsize|small}}}"|'''By Year'''
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| − | All the entries here would lead to different categories, as shown with some of the links that I've already created.
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| − | This box would be used in tandem with the NavBoxes for particular arrangers/years that have been created so far.
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| − | We could also include particular themes for people who are specifically looking for [[Touhou]] or [[Kirby (series)|Kirby]] medleys, for example. What do you think?
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| − | [[User:Nnd8793|Nnd8793]] 16:14, 03 August 2014 (CDT)
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| − | I think the NavBox looks pretty good! But the thing is, how would we fit the collaboration medleys in there? Do they get their own NavBox or their own category?
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| − | [[User:CrazyGamer339|CrazyGamer339]] 15:42, 3 August 2014 (PDT) | |
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| − | Good question. Collab medleys should have their own category at least - not sure about the NavBox yet. They would definitely get mentioned in this new MedleyNavBox, though.
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| − | We should probably do something similar for medleys from festivals. I don't know what we should do with the Miscellaneous section on the main page yet, hadn't thought about that. Hopefully those can be at least categorized by year when they're created.
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| − | So I guess this new MedleyNavBox will have at least three sections:
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| − | 1. By Composer (Collabs would likely go in here)
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| − | 2. By Year (Festivals could go here... maybe)
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| − | 3. By Theme (Touhou, Kirby, etc.)
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| − | [[User:Nnd8793|Nnd8793]] 19:18, 3 August 2014 (CDT)
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| − | Newer version of the MedleyNavBox:
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| − | {| align="left" class="linksnowrap" style="width: 100%; clear: both; background-color: {{{boxbackcolor|#ffffff}}}; border-width: thin; border-style: solid; border-color: {{{bordercolor|#bebebe}}}; padding: 0em 0em 0em 0.3em;"
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| − | |style="margin: 1em; text-align: center; padding: 0.1em; background-color: {{{titlebackcolor|#efefef}}}; color: {{{titlecolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{titlefontsize|small}}}" colspan="8"|'''Search for Medleys...'''
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| − | |style="text-align: center; background-color: {{{titlebackcolor|#efefef}}}; color: {{{titlecolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{titlefontsize|small}}}"|'''By Composer'''
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| − | |style="margin: 1em; text-align: {{{align|left}}}; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: {{{listcolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{listfontsize|smaller}}}"|[[:Category:Medleys by Shimo|Shimo]] • Onitan • [[:Category:Medleys by 8:51:22 pm|8:51:22 pm]] • Noma • Mahi • [[:Category:Medleys by M.Iz|M.Iz]] • FLAG • Collabs • etc.
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| − | |style="text-align: center; padding: 0.1em; background-color: {{{titlebackcolor|#efefef}}}; color: {{{titlecolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{titlefontsize|small}}}"|'''By Year'''
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| − | |style="margin: 1em; text-align: {{{align|left}}}; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: {{{listcolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{listfontsize|smaller}}}"|[[:Category:Medleys from 2007|2007]] • [[:Category:Medleys from 2008|2008]] • [[:Category:Medleys from 2009|2009]] • [[:Category:Medleys from 2010|2010]] • [[:Category:Medleys from 2011|2011]] • [[:Category:Medleys from 2012|2012]] • [[:Category:Medleys from 2013|2013]] • [[:Category:Medleys from 2014|2014]]
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| − | |style="text-align: center; background-color: {{{titlebackcolor|#efefef}}}; color: {{{titlecolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{titlefontsize|small}}}"|'''By Theme'''
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| − | |style="margin: 1em; text-align: {{{align|left}}}; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: {{{listcolor|#000000}}}; font-size: {{{listfontsize|smaller}}}"|Festivals • Music video games • [[:Category:Touhou|Touhou Project]] • [[:Category:Vocaloid|Vocaloid]] • [[:Category:Kirby|Kirby]] • [[:Category:IDOLM@STER|iDOLM@STER]] • etc.
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| − | In this case, "Music video games" will cover [[Beatmania]] songs, [[jubeat]] songs, etc.
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| − | Obviously the composers/themes sections will be expanded, but other than that, do you guys think it'll be OK to implement it, or should we make more adjustments to it?
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| − | [[User:Nnd8793|Nnd8793]] 10:16, 5 August 2014 (CDT)
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| − | It looks good to me! Now all we need to do is find out how to order the arrangers; should we go by popularity, chronological order (by first published medley), or in alphabetical order?
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| − | [[User:CrazyGamer339|CrazyGamer339]] 22:17, 5 August 2014 (PDT)
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| − | I was thinking alphabetical order. It would probably be pretty hard to try to determine popularity by any means, and although we are technically sorting medleys by year, I think chronological order would also be difficult.
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| − | Well, I've got a long list of arrangers taken from the main page, so I'll arrange those and think of some more themes that could work. I'll set up the MedleyNavBox tomorrow! From there, we'll need to create any theme pages and/or category pages and/or NavBoxes that we may be missing. Great job on the categorization, [[User:CrazyGamer339|CrazyGamer339]] and [[User:xXtouhoumarioXx|xXtouhoumarioXx]]! I really appreciate the support.
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| − | [[User:Nnd8793|Nnd8793]] 00:29, 6 August 2014 (CDT)
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Hey! Luckily I caught your comment at the end of the jubeat page, haha. I'd love to contribute pages for the songs and other series in the BEMANI series! I haven't followed the Nico medley scene since like summer 2013, right before BEMANI games hit the latest big surge in popularity due to the large cross-series events (Academy, Stadium, Ruins), and it seems a lot more than the core popular songs (Second Heaven, RED ZONE, etc.) are being used, so I'm pretty much just listening to a ton of the recent ones to see which ones are really popular. I will definitely be adding more info about these songs and the games though in the future! :) -- Deogenerate 17:41, 9 May 2015 (PDT)
Awesome, thanks a lot!! - Nnd8793 22:36, 9 May 2015 (CDT)
Song/Medley Lyrics Requests
Is there a song or medley that you really want the lyrics to, but they're not available on this wiki? Let me know on this page and I will get to it as soon as I can.
Currently making lyrics for: nothing at the moment.
Category Ideas
- A number of medleys nowadays use Kantai Collection BGM, or arrangements of Kantai Collection BGM. It might be good to make song pages and a category for Kantai Collection, so that way people can recognize these songs when they appear in a medley.
Medley Ideas
Sometimes, I get some incredibly ridiculous ideas for medleys. These ideas are ones that I'm pretty certain are possible to do, but will take a LOT of work to pull off properly. These ideas may appear as proper medleys in the future, but for now they will remain here. These are ranked from easiest to hardest, based on personal opinion:
- "X goes with everything", where we take parts or all of song X and mash it with songs that have different chord progressions.
- The song X must be very versatile for this to work properly. This concept has technically been done before by 8:51:22 pm with his FamilyMart remixes. Right now, SigSig's main melody seems like an ideal candidate.
- A medley with everything but a 4/4 time signature, with time measure changes occurring fairly often throughout.
- This medley is currently in progress! It will feature lots of songs with multiple time signature changes, but it will also include 4/4 and 3/4 songs that are cut into different time signatures (kind of like when Winnna chopped several 4/4 songs to fit them into a 3/4 setting in Medley1764).
